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Nick's Cafe and "The Phoenix"

 

On November 22, 2019 I received several messages from Larry Foerster and Sondra Hernandez regarding Nick's Cafe and "The Phoenix":

 

Sondra Hernandez from the Courier newspaper sent me (Larry) this photo of Nick’s Café, obviously taken before the Fire of February 1911 when all the wooden buildings east of the Courthouse were destroyed. The photo shows what appears to be Conroe H S girl pep squad standing in the street. 
 


 

My best guess is that Nick’s Bank Café was located at the corner of Simonton and Pacific Street directly west of the railroad track.  Perhaps noted historians Gertie  Spencer and Robin Montgomery may be able to confirm this. If so, it was replaced immediately by the First Bank of Conroe in May 1911, which stood on that spot for over a 100 years until it was recently torn down. Only slabs of the old bank and Everett Hardware store remain today. 
 

If you want to know more about Nick and Kate Carnochan and the fascinating story of the restoration of Conroe after the 1911 fire, read the attached “The Phoenix.” 

 

Larry L. Foerster, Chairman

Montgomery County Historical Commission

 

From: Hernandez, Sondra <shernandez@hcnonline.com>
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 4:43 PM
To: Larry Foerster <
foerster@dfcllp.com>
Subject: Uncle Nick's cafe


Sharing this because I’ve read accounts of Uncle Nick’s Café in stories about the 1911 fire, but I’ve never seen a picture until now. This picture was in the collection of hardcopy photos at the Central Library. From the wooden buildings, it had to have been taken prior to 1911.

 

His full name was Nick Carnochan and he was a Confederate Veteran. He died in the Confederate Veterans Home in Austin at age 85, but is buried in Oakwood Cemetery in Conroe.

 

Thanks,

Sondra

 

Update on the Photo

While I was enhancing the article on the Phoenix when I decided to look up Nick Carnegan in the 1981 Montgomery County History by MCG&HS.  More info on him is on page 128 and pages 157-158 in the history that I'll add later.

On page 128 it states:
 

"In the early 1900's there was an old frame building,, sort of a cottage, on the north side of the Court house square. An old couple by the name of Carnecan had a cafe in this building...

There is more about Nick but this may help to clarify where Nick's Cafe was located.
 

What I wanted to share with you both is that the same photo of Nick's Cafe with the ladies identified is on page 157 of the 1981 Montgomery County History, and who they were "The Girls Basketball Team" and the enhanced version of
“The Phoenix.”

 

 

 

More to come on Nick from the Montgomery County history and other sources ...

 

 

Page 128 from Montgomery County History Under "Remember When, by Mrs. Wm. Perry McComb:

 

"In the early 1900's there was an old frame building,, sort of a cottage, on th north side of the Court house square. An old couple by the name of Carnecan had a cafe in this building. The town was quite small and the streets were not paved. One Sunday morning, Uncle Nick Carnecan was sitting out on the porch of the cafe, is his rocking chair. Suddenly a young man from the big city of Houston drove up, slammed on his brakes and, in a cloud of dust yelled at Uncle Nick, "HEY, JACK! How far is it to Willis?" In dulcet tones Uncle Nick asked, "How did you know my name was Jack?" The young man replied, "Oh, I just guessed it." Uncle Nick yelled, "Then, by damn, just guess how far it is to Willis! The young man took off in a rush.

 

Page 157 - 158 from Montgomery County History Under "Taken from "A Silhouette of Conroe, Texas" by Cedric N. Nutter:

      There is no story of Old Conroe could be complete without mentioning Aunt Kate and Uncle Nick Carnegan. In my book, he was a legend.  He was a bugler in the Southern Army. He was a typical southern gentleman. He numbered his friends by his acquaintances. He and Aunt Kate ran a cafe, and he painted signs and he met all passenger trains, and most everybody met the northbound I. & G. N. passenger AT 4:30 p.m. Sunday afternoon. As the train stopped Uncle Nick walked up. A passenger on this train stuck his head out the window and asked, "Oldtimer, what is the population of this town?" Uncle Nick looked up and said, "Well, they are all here, just count them."
      Nick and Aunt Kate always went to the Confederate Reunion in Georgia every year. Not that they needed it to go, the the business men took up a collection so that they wouldn't want for anything on the way.

     One year he had a large numbers of circulars printed. on This circular was:
      Come to Houston, Texas
     Where is Houston, Texas"
     Oh it is forty miles south of Conroe, Texas.   Where they have beautiful virgin pine timber, fine people, and raise cotton, Corn, hogs, cattle and kids.

      He never mentioned Houston anymore. He scattered these circulars all the way to Georgia.

     As I have said, Uncle Nick was a bugler in the Confederate Army, and about 9:00 at night, you could hear it for miles and at 12:00 noon he would step out in front of his cafe and blow mess call.

 

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From Transformation of the "Miracle City", A History of Conroe and Montgomery County, by Robin Montgomery, PhD, from Chapter 6: Conroe Emerges, the Early Years, Phoenix Rising: A Legacy from old Conroe, page 81-82:

"...Let's hear the story as written by an eye-witness, Edward E. Williams, 13 years of age at the time of the great Conroe Fire...
In desperation, people tossed their belongings wherever there seemed to be a spot of refuge. One of these places was the backyard of Edward's home. Here "Uncle" Nick Carnochan and his wife, Kate, brought what holdings that survived of their restaurant. A few days after the fire, Uncle Nick returned from a trip with two tents filling his wagon. With these Nick and Kate re-established their business, the front tent for customers while the back tent became the kitchen.
For a few summer months, it became our young Edward's job to pull a cord activating a fan that Uncle Nick had rigged to cool his customers. As his business began to catch on, Uncle Nick would step into his old Confederate uniform and, brushing off his bugle, call the town to meals. At evening tide, he would play taps to calm the citizenry.

One day as young Edward reported for duty at the tent restaurant, he was surprised to find Uncle Nick in the back, hard at work painting a sign. It soon became clear that it was a 12-foot rendition of the immortal mythical birth, the Phoenix, said to rise from its own burning ashes every 500 years to begin life anew. This sign Nick placed in the front of his business.
Conroe, Uncle Nick was sure, would rise again.
 

Many thanks to Whitson Etheridge for a copy of Edward E. William's manuscript.

 

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From Montgomery County Texas CSA, by Frank M. Johnson, in Appendix B: Confederate Soldiers Buried in Montgomery County, Texas page 222, it lists:

Carnochan, Nicholas
45th Unit
State of Alabama
Function: Infantry,
Cemetery: Oakwood (Conroe)

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Nicholas Carnochan in the Alabama, Texas and Virginia, Confederate Pensions, 1884-1958

 

Name: Nicholas Carnochan
Application Date: 29 Sep 1913
Application Place: Montgomery, Texas
Birth Year: abt 1843
Birth Place: WeTumpka, Alabama
Age: 70
Pension File Number: 22906
Application Type: Veteran

 

Source Citation

Texas State Library and Archives Commission; Austin, Texas; Confederate Pension Applications, 1899-1975; Collection #: CPA22886; Roll #: 417; Roll Description: Pension File Nos 22886 to 22920, Application Years 1905 to 1913

Source Information

Ancestry.com. Alabama, Texas and Virginia, Confederate Pensions, 1884-1958 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.

 

Nicholas Carnochan Confederate Pension File 22906

 

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Montgomery County Texas Cemeteries, Vol. III, p 6 in Oakwood Cemetery, transcribed 27 March 1978:

Carnochan, Kate
wife of N. Carnochan

29 Jan 1846 - ______

 

Carnochan, Nick
24 July 1843 - 27 Apr 1929

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Nick in 1900 Census

 


 

Name: Nicholas Carnochan
Event Type: Census
Event Year: 1900
Event Place: Justice Precinct 7 Conroe town, Montgomery,
Texas, United States

Gender: Male
Age: 58
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): W
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Years Married: 28
Birth Date: Jul 1842
Birthplace: Alabama
Marriage Year (Estimated): 1872
Father's Birthplace: Alabama
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
 

Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Nicholas Carnochan Head M 58 Alabama
Kate Carnochan Wife F 53 Georgia
Louis Mclanchlin Boarder M 32 Texas

District: 112
Sheet Number and Letter: 4A
Household ID: 64
Line Number: 24
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records
 Administration (NARA)

Affiliate Publication Number: T623
GS Film Number: 1241660
Digital Folder Number: 004118535
Image Number: 00658
 

Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3PG-TMH : accessed 30 November 2019), Louis Mclanchlin in household of Nicholas Carnochan, Justice Precinct 7 Conroe town, Montgomery, Texas, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 112, sheet 4A, family 64, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,660.

 

Nick in 1910 Census

 


Name: Nick Carnohan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1910
Event Place: Justice Precinct 7, Montgomery, Texas, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 66
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Birth Year (Estimated): 1844
Birthplace: Alabama
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 4
 
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Nick Carnohan Head M 66 Alabama
Kate Carnohan Wife F 65 Georgia

District: ED 152
Sheet Number and Letter: 4B
Household ID: 83
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T624
Affiliate Film Number: 1579
GS Film Number: 1375592
Digital Folder Number: 005157212
Image Number: 00897
 

Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M2SV-BH6 : accessed 30 November 2019), Kate Carnohan in household of Nick Carnohan, Justice Precinct 7, Montgomery, Texas, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 152, sheet 4B, family 83, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 1579; FHL microfilm 1,375,592.

 

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Nick in 1920 Census

 


Name: Nick Carnochan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: Conroe, Montgomery, Texas, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 76
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Own or Rent: Own
Birth Year (Estimated): 1844
Birthplace: Alabama
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 8
 

Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Nick Carnochan Head M 76 Alabama
Kate Carnochan Wife F 73 Georgia

District: ED 114
Sheet Number and Letter: 8B
Household ID: 175
Line Number: 90
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T625
Affiliate Film Number: 1834
GS Film Number: 1821834
Digital Folder Number: 004968887
Image Number: 01004
 

Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCMJ-D9P : accessed 29 November 2019), Kate Carnochan in household of Wick Carnochan, Conroe, Montgomery, Texas, United States; citing ED 114, sheet 8B, line 91, family 175, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1834; FHL microfilm 1,821,834.

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Nick's Death:


Name: Nick Carnochan
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1920
Event Place: Conroe, Montgomery, Texas, United States
Gender: Male
Age: 76
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Can Read: Yes
Can Write: Yes
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Own or Rent: Own
Birth Year (Estimated): 1844
Birthplace: Alabama
Father's Birthplace: New York
Mother's Birthplace: Alabama
Sheet Letter: B
Sheet Number: 8
 

Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Nick Carnochan Head M 76 Alabama
Kate Carnochan Wife F 73 Georgia

District: ED 114
Sheet Number and Letter: 8B
Household ID: 175
Line Number: 90
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T625
Affiliate Film Number: 1834
GS Film Number: 1821834
Digital Folder Number: 004968887
Image Number: 01004
 

Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCMJ-D9P : accessed 29 November 2019), Kate Carnochan in household of Wick Carnochan, Conroe, Montgomery, Texas, United States; citing ED 114, sheet 8B, line 91, family 175, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1834; FHL microfilm 1,821,834.

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Nick's Death:

 


Name: Nick Carnohan
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 27 Apr 1929
Event Place: Austin, Travis, Texas, United States
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 1843
Birthplace: , Alabama
Certificate Number: 23059

GS Film number: 2114938
Digital Folder Number: 005145193
Image Number: 00066

Citing this Record
"Texas Deaths, 1890-1976," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K33G-SQZ : 13 March 2018), Nick Carnohan, 27 Apr 1929; citing certificate number 23059, State Registrar Office, Austin; FHL microfilm 2,114,938.

 

 

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FindAGrave.com:

Nick Carnochan

BIRTH
DEATH 27 Apr 1929 (aged 85)
BURIAL ConroeMontgomery CountyTexasUSA Add to Map
MEMORIAL ID 41214626 · View Source
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Kate's Death:

Name: Kate Carnochan
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 18 Aug 1936
Event Place: Travis, Texas
Certificate Number: 72716
Citing this Record
"Texas Death Index, 1903-2000," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VZD7-8W3 : 24 May 2014), Kate Carnochan, 18 Aug 1936; from "Texas, Death Index, 1903-2000," database, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2006); citing certificate number 72716, Travis, Texas, Texas Department of Health, State Vital Statistics Unit, Austin.

Listed under Texas Deaths as:

Name: Kate Carnoshaw
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 18 Aug 1936
Event Place: Austin, Travis, Texas, United States
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Widowed
Birth Date: 29 Jan 1846
Birthplace: , Georgia
Father's Name: George Greer
Mother's Name: Nancy Bishop
Certificate Number: 72716


GS Film number: 2117124
Digital Folder Number: 005145555
Image Number: 02981


 

Citing this Record
"Texas Deaths, 1890-1976," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K3HG-CNT : 13 March 2018), Nancy Bishop in entry for Kate Carnoshaw, 18 Aug 1936; citing certificate number 72716, State Registrar Office, Austin; FHL microfilm 2,117,124.

 

 

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FindAGrave:

Kate Carnochan

BIRTH
DEATH unknown
BURIAL ConroeMontgomery CountyTexasUSA Add to Map
MEMORIAL ID 41214683

 

Carnochan Burial Plot in Oakwood Cemetery 

 

Nick & Kate are buriend in Plot 46
 

Oakwood Plot Plan from Montgomery County Library Genealogy &
History Room

 

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